I feel like I stirred up a hornets nest on this issue of crating, this was not My intention. Cynthia brought up an interesting fact that the group She got Her dogs from required crating, Mine doesn't. The group I use has an extensive program that the dogs go through and are handled by no less than 18 well trained handlers that work on the issues that can arise with these dogs. By the time they're adopted out crating just isn't needed.
That's not to say that their isn't a dog or two that doesn't feel better in a crate, there just aren't many in My group.
If I offended anyone please accept My apology I ment no harm.

Gary

We have 3 greys and don't even have a crate.I agree,tho,some dogs feel safe and secure in a crate.
As far as those having problems with crating...why don't you take your dog out of the crate and go outside for about 5minutes? Come back in and see what happened..did he tear up something,or get into trouble?If not,try the same scenario again and again,leaving the house a little bit longer each time you go outside.Come back in and see if there was a
problem.If there are areas of your house you do not want the dog in,use babygates to keep him out of those places.Every dog is different and sometime you have to try different things to see what works for your dog.
It's just my opinion,but I feel these dogs have been crated enough.Some just don't want to be crated anymore and some still prefer to have their crate.
Sandy

No apologies needed Gary. Crating can be a controversial issue and that is okay. Some dogs need a crate some don't. We crated when we first got Jasmine as she was straight from the kennel. I do think we gave her free range too early though as she destroyed several remotes. Now the greys we take in are usually returns that haven't been crated and with my hubby working out of the house we don't crate them. They have crates (even the cat) but they don't have doors and they use them for alone time.

But my reason for moving Jasmine out of the crate has nothing to do with her and her behaviour. It was all me. I am claustrophobic and just couldn't put her in there. Maybe if it was a wire crate I would have felt differently, who knows. But Miss Maggie-Mae was around to show Jaz the ropes and sometimes I think Maggie talked her into chewing the remotes so she would get put back in the crate and Maggie would have the couch to herself.

I think when they are straight from the track or kennel the crate is a wonderful training tool when used appropriately. In our house though Rick has to put them in there. (Call me silly.)

I know what You mean about the remotes. I remember sitting in My recliner watching TV when the channels kept changing and I wasn't holding the remote. I thought the satellite had gone nuts, When I looked alongside of My chair there was Pride chewing on the remote He had stolen from the bedroom. Needless to say We have moved those items out of reach.

Gary